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Why Can't They All Just Say It?

Thursday, July 24, 2008

Why Can't They All Just Say It?

Well, I anticipated doing another blog long before now, but this appears to be a busy Summer for me. After getting home from Creation I've been running. A whole month has passed already! That's crazy. Last weekend I went to a local music fest that featured Seventh Day Slumber and Disciple. Probably like three months from now I'll get around to doing a blog about that, haha. Starting tomorrow night I'm playing bass for our conference's family camp. Ten straight nights can get grueling after awhile, but I'm ready to go.

Enough with the chit=chat, the real purpose of this blog is to discuss something that happened the very first official night (we were there the night before) of Creation. That night featured Flyleaf, Skillet, and Switchfoot. I left Switchfoot desiring a little something more. I don't know what that something was, but it was missing. Skillet were pretty amazing. Tight is the word that we kept using to describe their show. Musically, emotionally, lighting, pyro, etc. were all just very tight. I tell ya, you haven't lived until you've been in a crowd so big that you could pick your feet off the ground and you wouldn't fall because you're stuck in all the people!

However, Flyleaf opened the night. I've got their record and have been enjoying it. I was excited to see what their live show was like, but I guess I wasn't really expecting a lot. For those of you who are unfamilar with Flyleaf, get out from under your rock! Haha, Serously though they're not a band who typically tours with other Christian bands. I know what you're thinking, "Oh... one of those."

"Those" are happening more and more in Christian music. Cries of "sell out" and jeers of "they're just in it for the money now" have been hurled in their direction. Often times when asked in interviews, they seem to skirt around quesitons of faith (or at least in the interviews that everyone seem to gravitate to). Unlike their counterparts, Flyleaf can't claim that they found big success in the Christian market and then jumped over, but I've heard them accused more than one time of using their "so-called faith" to help boost their album sales to a gullible Christian market. Harsh, but I've heard it.

About halfway through their set at Creation, Lacey of Flyleaf started to talk about how awesome this event was because they don't get to play for "you guys" (meaning the Christian market) very much. She then started to share about how their call was to be a light in a dark place, so that's what they're doing. I got to admit, it brought a tear to my eye! There it was. How can you argue with that?

I know that some bands  most likely do it just for their careers. Maybe I'm just not reading the right interviews or the right questions aren't being asked, but it would seem to this humble JfH staffer that if more bands who opted to go the secular route and  felt called to do so would just be open about that fact, there'd be a lot less questions.

Regardless, how about some straight answers. If this helps your career and that's your motivation, that's cool with me. This is what you do for a living. All the same if you're doing it because you feel God has called you to share your message with an audience of people who don't know Him, why not be open about it? Personally, I'm more apt to support a Christian band in the secular market who shares their purpose.

Now let me say this, I know some bands are open about their intentions and purposes. That's cool, but for those who don't... I'm tired of shifty answers that skirt the real issue. I'm tired of reading of a band saying something that completely contradicts something else they said.

Why can't they all just give a straight answer?

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1. TL2589 said...

Hi. I'm a first-time poster here, so give me some slack, if you don't mind. Thanks. Anyway, I'd say that one big reason that a lot of "secular Christian" bands seem to skirt around questions of faith (moral opinions, why they do what they do, etc.) is that they don't want to offend their audience, which they probably hope is mostly secular. They don't want to be thought of as "preachy". Maybe I'm wrong here, but from what I've read in interviews, or just seen in real life (in the lives of both bands and people), but oftentimes we as Christians will cover up our faith to avoid offending anyone. I can forgive this (I've almost certainly done it myself), but, Matt, I'm with you here- I love it when Christian bands in the secular market are open about their faith. What was a great business opportunity becomes an amazing missions opportunity, on that I'm only too glad to support.

2. George said...

I kind of prefer the "positive" label of a band over the "Christian." Don't get me wrong, I am a Christian but when people see a "Christian band" they sometimes turn away. I honestly think that if you take a more subtle route toward some kind of ministry you might actually catch the eyes of those who might need it more. Lyrics can be taken in so many different ways, and its up to the listener to decide if they want the message of a "Christian" band. I understand you should be more open about who you are and what you stand for, but at least they're not denying their faith with a "positive" look.

3. Paul Portell said...

Back in the 1970's and 1980's Christian bands, whether they were performing in the Christian or secular arenas, were more open about their faith in Christ than they are now. We need more bands like Flyleaf, P.O.D., and Skillet who still share their faith openly everywhere they go.

4. Matt said...

Why be so sympathetic to them? It's their job (that they get payed for) to write Christian music for us, the Christian audience. As a song writer, I would never be so cowardly as to write cryptic lyrics that are "kinda about God" and let the audience be responsible for interpreting it.

I'm not impressed with that I've heard from "Christian" bands recently, and I'm getting sick of it. Guess what bands? I like it MORE when you write overtly about God.

No wonder Christ said "if you are ashamed of me, I will be ashamed of you."

I would feel like a sell-out myself if God blessed me with fame for my musical talent and the closest I came to mentioning him was "he," "you," and "light in the darkness."

5. Matt said...

No, I'm not the Matt that posted above, for the record.
Anyway, it disappoints me how much of a bad reputation Christian bands who play secular music get. But then again, it's understandable- there's no doubt after bands like Chevelle and Squad 5-0 that some musicians see the Christian industry as nothing more than an easy launching point.
But the bands who are genuinely doing this- bands like Flyleaf, Family Force Five, and Switchfoot- should not be frowned upon. God calls us to be a light unto the world, and that's exactly what they're doing. We should be praying for them and offering them our utmost support, because they're going to have a very hard road ahead of them. Sure, some people might criticize them for having cryptic lyrics, but isn't that the only way to get your message to non-Christians? I haven't met a lot of non-Christians who listen to Steven Curtis Chapman, but they will listen to Switchfoot. I think for these bands, the concerts are crucial. At first, I was concerned about Family Force 5 due to the fact that most of their lyrics were just party songs. I thought it looked uncannily like the Squaad 5-0 debut. But I've since seen FF5 in concert three times, and there's no denying that they have a heart for good. That's really how these bands work- the audience comes for the music and stays for the message.
Writing cryptic lyrics is not being ashamed of Christ; it is trying to bring Jesus to the masses in a way they will understand and appreciate.

6. distortion_overdrive said...

I totally agree. If you're a true Christian, you would live your whole life for God. And when you're in front of a thousand unsaved people, you have an amazing opportunity to share your faith with them. The problem is, artists these days are more focused on music than God when God should be #1 and music should be #2.
What bugs me is when people say that they're not a "Christian band", but the band members are Christians. That makes no sense to me. Now, “Christian” isn’t a genre; but that doesn’t mean being called “Christian” is a bad thing. Whether people call you a "Christian band" or not shouldn't matter. You are a Christian period no matter what you do. I think bands are just worried that if they “live out loud” for Jesus in the secular world, they will lose fans and “most importantly”—money. If my band gets signed with Tooth&Nail, we’re going to scream Jesus’ name no matter what people say. And if fans decide to throw us out of their list of people they listen to because we’re overt Christians, then boo-hoo to them; they’re missing out on good music.
It’s God’s choice whether or not a band will become successful; and I think that if a band is putting God first, God will be more than happy to reward them.

7. Josh said...

Obviously, every Christian is going to tell you that they believe you should put God first, but does everybody really know what that would entail? I think for some musicians, it's to edify the body of Christ and write overtly Christian music. But maybe, for other musicians, it could be writing lyrics that aren't as "preachy" or whatever so that they can reach a different audience.

I like people like Chris Tomlin, Matt Redman, and David Crowder. I appreciate what they do. They worship God, and help build up other Christians. But their music wouldn't mean very much to an unbeliever. It takes bands like Flyleaf who are willing to step over and reach out to the lost. God could very well intend to use them to create personal relationships with their fans, and be a witness in that way. Or it could be offering hope in their lyrics.

If you had an unbelieving friend and you play "Blessed Be Your Name", what do you think he will get out of it?

All I'm saying is, people shouldn't be so judgmental of Christians playing in the mainstream market. Sure, there are some bands doing it just for the money. But, deep in my heart, I believe there are bands with very good intentions doing to glorify God. I think we should be supporting them.

Each person has their own function in the church body. Maybe Skillet's is different than Casting Crowns'.

8. Glenn said...

I'm with you Matt. I have NO idea why bands can't admit what the "hope" or "gravity" or "Jah" is in their songs. I mean, if someone said "Hey, what is the hope you're talking about?" I wonder what their answer would be.. Probably something like "Everyone's journey is different.." To me it's like a doctor having a medicine that will cure everyone but won't share it, rather will hint about it or somewhat mention it in passing. Makes me appreciate bands like the Supertones or DC Talk or Petra or PFR - who could put on a good rock show and when asked say "Yes, since you asked, my faith is in Christ."

Why can't they just say it? Probably the same reason we aren't witnessing all the time..... :(

9. Karmae said...

I agree and do not. If someone does not know of God and hears a song by an artist allot of the time they will not listen to them anymore if they claim Christian motives but also they should not sit back and not say anything. I think thought that the important thing is that they themselves have a relationship with Jesus and you cant judge that by the outward completely. I mean there are times when you can and its blatant but for the most part we are all human and we all struggle and we should not be judging each other by what we say or do not say.

10. Catherine said...

How are humans like us supposed to know what God's will is for these artists? Just because they don't mention Christ's name every other minute doesn't mean they're not living out his will for them. In the Bible, Jesus said to always pray with the door shut, just between you and Him. He always got mad at people like the Pharisees who prayed aloud and told of their righteous ways but then contradicted themselves with their sinful lifestyles. I like what Jon Foreman of Switchfoot said, something along the lines of livng out the gospel by loving others and reaching out to them through your actions. He said the way you treat others behind closed doors matters way more than what you say and do on stage. And also, it's not like the message in these artist's songs are meaningless and negative. On the contrary, the songs are filled with truth-seeking and powerful words that speak against the meaningless stuff in our lives. They promote positive messages that many times come straight from the Bible. So can we really judge an artist's spiritual life soley based on what they say?

11. Matt+Johnson said...

Wow, lots of comments. Let me clear a couple of things up about my post...

I don't have a beef with bands being cryptic in their lyrics. However if they feel their purpose is to be more than a worship band and more than "Christian Entertainment" then I want them to say so.

If you want to be out there sharing your faith in a way that is going to attract people then more power to you. (Let's face it... running down the street yelling "Jesus is the way!" Doesn't get many people saved).

Christian... don't you ever feel like we've turned that word into something it was never intended to be?

12. Victoria said...

Well, what I'm going to say is going to be shining the spotlight on Switchfoot, I guess. For instance, they used to be more open about their faith in Christ (think Legend of Chin all the way up to Learning to Breathe), but now that they don't call themselves a "Christian band" more people are more willing to listen to them. I have an example: My friend, who is very dear to me, has yet to give her life to Jesus, so whenever I have a song I want her to check out, the first thing she asks is, "is it Christian?"
well, no, but its clean, its good for you, and it will tell you something that you may not be ready to hear. (like, Happy is a Yuppie Word, Easier Than Love, maybe even 4:12)
So, thanks to bands that aren't so open about their faith, its helped me reach out to my friend, who's music, well, its not good for her. (by the way, this was not intended in ANY way to knock bands/artists who are extremely open about their faith!)

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