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mgardz
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 Topic: The new BTA interview Posted: Nov-05-2009 at 8:31pm |
I was reading the Becoming the Archetype interview and was a little dissapointed with Seth's attitude. If he isn't into metal and enjoying being in the band why is he still in it? And the thing that really gets me the most is when he says "I don't really know any good Christian metal bands now." and "I don't know who plays Christian metal and I really don't even care." "So yeah, I wish someone would just be able to come out that could just do exciting things." Then he goes on to rant about no one being creative and "stupid emo bands" etc.
1. I like BTA alot, but does he think they aren't following in other bands' footsteps? This response seems prideful to me.
2. Why doesn't he support his fellow Christian metal bands, or even just the ones that share his label? He is basically saying there is no creative Christian metal, and I'm sure there are many of us who disagree completely.
I came away from this interview with a bad taste in my mouth and I feel like Seth could have done a much better job of representing BTA, Christian metal and ultimately God with his responses. What do you think?
BTA Interview with JfH
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The Rescued
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 Posted: Nov-06-2009 at 12:15pm |
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I pretty much agree with what you said.
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rkxlove07
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 Posted: Nov-06-2009 at 3:36pm |
i don't listen to bta or any metal really but i read the interview and was surprised at what he was saying. it was like... um ok. then why are you in this band?? and talking about how bands should be following after radiohead... right. lol
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Project Maylene
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Ok. I just read the article and hear is my opinion:
The guy is just being honest.
I would much rather him say this then say that Solid State is where it's at and every band on the label is awesome or that every band in Christian Metal is the bees-knees when that is not true in the slightest.
Do I agree that there isn't any great christian metal bands out there? No. Is he wrong in his opinion? No.
He gives the bands that he really digs a plug (Extol, Living Sacrifice, War of Ages) and gives some pub to bands he likes to tour with a character plug, which may be more important than a musical plug (Demon Hunter, Project 86).
And when did having an opinion on whether or not a "scene" is producing good stuff ever a reflection of where they are at in their personal faith? Can Christian's not be honest about their music? He isn't currently impressed with Christian Metal as a whole, big deal. I don't currently like what the CCM pushes on the radio, doest that make my relationship with God strained? No. I ask people what there into and if they say a Christian band I don't dig, I tell them I dig the message but there style just isn't something I'm into. I don't like all of Christian music and I don't expect anybody else to either. Why give his fellow Christian metal artists a plug if he doesn't like what he is hearing?
I don't understand how Christian music, whether it be someone in a band or a listener, can't be critic. If this site doesn't like an album they tell you they don't. Seth was asked a question and he gave his honest opinion. I hold him in much higher regard because of it.
He doesn't like what he is hearing in the Christian Metal scene and you do. Opinions are opinions.
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piano89
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Yeah I read the interview and I was left feeling a little bewildered. I think I understand his point about why he is in the band. My confusion was with him basically saying that there's nothing creative in Christian metal. Yet before he stated that, he said that he doesn't listen to Christian metal. So if he doesn't listen to Christian metal, how does he know that there aren't any creative Christian metal bands? Maybe I misunderstood something, but that's the impression I got.
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Project Maylene
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They play a lot of festivals and other gigs with metal bands, so I'm sure he has received some exposure to them and he doesn't like what he hears. I think what he is saying is he doesn't actively listen to Christian Metal, but his exposure both before and while touring just doesn't grab him.
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I'm with Maylene on this one and I'll tell you why.
First of all, as far as the pride issue, he does NOT think they aren't following in other band's footsteps and he acknowledged that. He listed at least three secular bands that have influenced their sound (Mastodon, Opeth, Metallica). He also listed Living Sacrifice and Extol in the Christiain scene. Five bands they're following right there.
Secondly, if Seth doesn't think there are any good Christian metal bands right now, that's his opinion. What's the big deal? I don't blame him. They play a style of metal that's not prominent in the Christian scene and with the super-saturation of boring metalcore and hardcore bands as of late, there's a lot for a technical metal fan and musician to feel jaded about. Nothing wrong with that. They don't have to like everything. I don't think there are any good mainstream rap artists, but that's just my opinion and a lot of people disagree. It's all relative, and most of all, harmless. Not everyone has to like everything.
Secondly, why do you assume that he owes the genre of Christian metal some sort of allegiance? He didn't rip anyone, he just said he didn't find it creative. I honestly don't blame him. And I myself don't find a lot of Christian pop creative. Is there anything wrong with that? I don't think so. I applaud and encourage the artists in their ministry; I don't have to like the music. There weren't any personal attacks in the interview, just opinions.
As far as being in BTA, I think you missed the part where he said, "I like what we do and that's it. If we didn't do that then I wouldn't really be involved in the scene at all anymore". That means that if BTA broke up, he wouldn't be involved in the scene anymore because he's not that into it anymore. He didn't say he didn't like being in BTA and he can't wait to leave. He's just getting bored. Nothing wrong with that. He also said he's not that into playing metal anymore. Once again, nothing wrong with that. He's deciding to stick it out for whatever reason, and you should leave it at that. There's nothing wrong with losing interest with something and moving on to something else. Maybe God is calling him in a different direction. Maybe he wants to stay in the band because now would be a bad time to leave. There are a million different factors at play and the bottom line is we simply don't know. That's it. No big deal.
As far as representing God, all I can say is I have no idea about his actual attitude and no one else does because all we have are the words, not the tone. Hypothetically speaking, if he DID have a bad attitude, don't be that surprised. Christian musicians are normal sinful people like everyone else and they aren't perfect. We go through up's and down's in our lives and whoever thinks it has never affected their attitude for better or worse has fooled themselves. It's hard. The person that has never dropped the ball as far as bad attitudes can throw the first rock at him but I for one know that I've had a bad attitude before. Personally, besides feeling weary about the situation he's in right now, there was nothing to indicate that he was sour or bitter. I'd also like to point out that JFH did in fact post the interview, so they must have thought it appropriate.
Finally, BTA shreds. That much is certain.
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piano89
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Originally posted by Project Maylene
They play a lot of festivals and other gigs with metal bands, so I'm sure he has received some exposure to them and he doesn't like what he hears. I think what he is saying is he doesn't actively listen to Christian Metal, but his exposure both before and while touring just doesn't grab him. Fair enough then. He's entitled to his opinion.
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joenater96
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I agree with Maylene and Apollyon on this one. I mean, in all honesty, how much originality really is there in the Christian metal scene?
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Project Maylene
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 Posted: Nov-07-2009 at 12:24am |
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The lack of origniality is the problem and I'm glad Seth brought it up. I'm a huge fan of Maylene, Plea for Purging and The Devil Wears Prada. But Seth is right when he points out that everyone is trying to sound exactly like these, and other, bands in the genre.
I have no problem with a band looking towards these bands for inspiration, both in style and sound. But I don't want a band to try and sound exactly like those bands. I already have a band that sounds like The Devil Wears Prada, ther name is...The Devil Wears Prada. Take the best of what you like from the bands you listen too and add your own twist to it. New bands should strive to make their own sound. Influence is one thing, copying is another.
I've seen BTA live, and even though I'm not a fan of their albums, I can honestly say they are one of the most technical, heavy sounding bands I've ever heard live. They truely are a different beast entirely. Even though they are influenced by Living Sacrifice, I've heard them both live and they are completely different sounds. Sure they are both very heavy, but they both have made their heavy sound their own.
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