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Best known for their modern-worship anthems, Delirious? released their 11th studio album Kingdom of Comfort
April 1st and JFH's own Dave Taylor caught up with the guys to talk about their new album, drummer Stew Smith’s departure,
and the future of Delirious?.
This interview took place on: 3/18/08.
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Jesus freak Hideout (Dave Taylor): On the new album, Kingdom of Comfort, you
have talked about most of the inspiration for the album coming from work that you’ve done in India and some other countries.
What specific things inspired you on the album?
Martin Smith:
Mostly, as we’ve traveled the last few years, we’ve seen with our own eyes some very horrific things. That’s forced us into
making a response. You just can’t come home and carry on living life the way you were. It doesn’t mean things immediate,
but something happens inside that makes you go, "I need to start repositioning myself and what I do to make changes."
So that’s a slow process but hopefully it’s a strong, steady, house-building process. And we’ll all react different to that,
but I know there’s a sense for all of us that it can’t ever be the same. Your heartbeat changes a little bit. It beats a little
bit faster once you’ve seen all that stuff, and you can’t settle. So we came back into the studio, and I remember us setting up
and Stu G turned his amps on, and we got the drums up, and it’s like all this emotion, worry, pain, confusion, and the smell of
India, and it all just sort of came out in the music, and we decided we just needed to go with it. I don’t know where this fits
but let’s just keep going.
Stew Smith:
I think it’s more than just about social justice and poverty. Those are some of the trickiest, but actually for me, this is
about what I believe in, and "does it make sense?" and "how am I making a difference?" And those are the real challenges that
we have as individuals. It’s not just this small social justice kind of poverty thing, but actually that is being the
spearhead to these serious questions about our faith and what we believe. And part of the whole concept of Kingdom of Comfort
is: have we made the Gospel which is so potent and can be so radical have we made it something which is so menial and
almost like a consumable item, that we’ve lost the meaning and the potency of what Jesus walked around on the face of this
planet talking about? And those are some of the things that go through my mind and in my heart, and thinking “ok, what does that
mean to me, am I actually making a difference?” And hopefully when people listen to the album, they hear that cry of poverty,
but actually, it requires something of us to try to change this world that we live in, and that’s not just about India or
Cambodia, or wherever, but it’s about where you live. It has to start with you. Those are some of the things that I’m still
buzzing on, that I’m still questioning, and I haven’t got all the answers, but that’s where that confusion and frustration
comes out. But you know we really have to be people that make a difference. If our faith actually is that real, what am I doing
about it? It’s an exciting and challenging album. Musically, it’s brilliant. I think it’s the best album we’ve made.
JFH (Dave): One thing that’s always impressed me about Delirious? is that you guys are
constantly evolving. Every album has it’s own unique sound that’s different than the one before. Is that a conscious decision?
Stu G: I think that, because we love music so much and we listen to all different types of music, you get
those sort of influences coming in and out all the time. And you just don’t want to stay in the same place as a musician or a
person. You’ve just got to keep moving. Otherwise, for me, you feel stuck. When you’re in it, it doesn’t feel like you’re doing
it that much, but our aim is to move on with every record.
Stew:
I think it’s an interesting tension isn’t it? Particularly with this new record Kingdom of Comfort I remember in the
studio we were talking about “ok, we’ve done this before, let’s not do that, we’re just falling back on what is safe and what
we know to do.” But the tension is that there’s a kind of sound to Delirious?, a link that people want to hear those things at
the same time. So there’s a bit of a balance, isn’t there? If we produce an album that’s so diverse and so out there, there
probably wouldn’t be any connection.
JFH (Dave): What are some of your favorite songs on Kingdom of Comfort?
Martin: "My Soul Sings," which is the last song on the record. “All God’s Children.” They both sit at the end
of the record. They kind of carry the gist of it, don’t they? But I love “Stare the Monster Down.” It’s quite a personal lyric.
I love “Eagle Rider.” I mean, I enjoy all them.
Stu G: It’s actually hard, but I mean, "Kingdom of Comfort" is probably my favorite song. “Stare the Monster Down”
is very personal to me lyrically, and there’s a lot of passion in that. I like the more up-tempo things like "God is Smiling"
and "Break The Silence." "My Soul Sings," "Eagle Rider," it just goes on. I mean, we had fun making it, we really had fun.
There was some really hard work at the beginning with some of the songs, but with the recording of it, we had really great fun.
JFH (Dave): Out of all the songs you guys have written and recorded over the years, what would you say your all time favorite Delirious? song is?
Martin: That’s really hard.
Stu G: You could have at least given us a top 5 or something
JFH (Dave): OK then, top 5?
Stu G: I’ll go for two. I love “Investigate.” I love the Psalm that comes from. I love the period of time we
were in when we wrote that, and playing that on the stage is a great experience. And then “Kingdom of Comfort”
Martin: I’ll take the song “It’s OK,” which I think was a great achievement for us because it was pushing
that emotional “breaking your heart” button without doing the Jesus thing, and I thought it was great at the time. It was
very holistic. And a song like “Did You Feel the Mountains Tremble,” not because stylistically I think it’s great, but because
lyrically at the time, it came out of nowhere. It was a little bit bigger. And when you read the lyrics now, it’s still
relevant today.
Stew: Mine would be “Mezzanine Floor,” which I think is really interesting because I think it’s an interesting
song for now as well. And for me, I really think it sort of encapsulated a time and space thing for where we were as a band and
what we’re trying to achieve in terms of mainstream and be more poetic in our language to appeal to a wider audience but still
have some sort of potency. And probably “Investigate,” it’s just a great rock song it’s just a chance to get lost in the
sounds and tones.
JFH (Dave): I think it’s interesting that you brought up “Mezzanine Floor,” because
[Stew] you’re kind of in that place of being between change in your life. You recently announced that after 15 years, you’re
moving onto the next stage in your life. In your announcement you stated that you would continue to be involved in Delirious?
after your departure. What will your involvement be?
Stew: I’ll be changing the guitar strings. *laughs* Obviously, I’ve been drumming, but behind the
scenes, creatively, I’ve designed our marketing stuff. I’ve been fortunate. That’s what my real job was before the band. That’s
where my training was, and I’ve been fortunate to do two things that I love. One is drumming, the other is the creative thing
and the design, and actually in the last 12-15 years, to balance those things out. And so, I’m going to continue to pick up that
creative thing. I’ll be working two days a week for Delirious? and Furious? and other artists to continue that, so I’m really
excited about that, and so the rest of the time I’ll be doing other opportunities as Smeezer the Designologist. I’m excited,
it’s emotional and sad for all of us, because it’s something I love doing and could easily carry on with for the next 10 years,
but it’s the tension of being away and just feeling like God’s got more for me and requires more of me. And that is a very
difficult one, because I love what I do, and when we’re playing, there’s no better place to be, and I still feel that when we
play. But the feeling is that I need to take my foot off the gas, and I’ll really find myself again and connect with the
creative thing, which is something else I really love. It’s all those things, it’s confusing and sad, but I’m excited for the
future, I’m excited for the guys. The guy that’s replacing me is a friend of ours, a young guy that’s from our church that
I helped out years ago to get into drumming. His name is Paul Evans, and I think musically he’s going to be a great, great
asset to the band. He’s a brilliant drummer. I think in terms of the band, he’s going to bring some different dynamics...
it’s going to be an exciting time.
JFH (Dave): After all this time, it’s been hard to picture Delirious? as being
anything but the five of you guys. At any point did you guys consider “is this the end, or do we keep going on?” How did that
conversation play out for the rest of you?
Stu G: Well, it’s always an option, whatever stage you’re at. But I think the thing is,
we just didn’t feel like we’re finished. As simple as that.
Stew: I said to them “This is feels right for me, but it doesn’t feel right for you”
JFH (Dave): I have a couple of questions asked by users of Dave Wood’s Delirious? fan site. The first one is: What’s the story behind “Take off My Shoes”? How did you write it, and by what inspiration?
Martin: It’s taken from that sort of mad story where the Old Testament priests would go into the holy of
holies, and at times the presence of God would be so intense that the guy would die. And so they’d go in to tie a rope
around his leg so that if he did die, they could pull him out without someone else having to go in. I mean it’s a great story,
isn’t it? But it’s taken from that thing that this is pretty holy ground we stand on, and savoring that moment, I’m taking off
my shoes.
JFH (Dave): Last question: What’s your favorite gig of all time.
Stu G: That’s difficult.
Stew: Probably the Roxy at Sunset Boulevard. Mid 90’s, I think that was around ’97.
There were a few hundred people, Virgin Records and those guys were there, and we were really sweaty and jammed in there,
but it was great.
Martin: One that comes to mind is the Parachute Festival in New Zealand. It’s outdoors, it’s like 30,000
people. The stars were out. And you really are on the other side of the planet. And we were seriously jet-lagged.
It was the wrong time to be awake. And yet, we were out on the stage, and it was amazing. It was absolutely amazing. How an
outdoor thing can feel like a small little club show. I love that.
Stu G: For me, I’d agree with Stew, I’d say the Roxy, but I’ll give you another one.
It was the first time we played I can’t remember which one it was it was either Irvine Meadows or the Greek Theatre in
California and it’s like an outdoor amplitheatre. And I think it was an “Investigate” moment. When we played “Investigate”
there, that was just the best moment.
Delirious?' new album, Kingdom Of Comfort, is now available wherever music is sold.
Left to right: JFH's David Taylor, Delirious: Stu G, Martin Smith, Stew Smith
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